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Just want to take a","start":0.08,"duration":4.32},{"text":"quick second and let people know that I","start":1.6,"duration":5.199},{"text":"am self-supported. Uh I now put all of","start":4.4,"duration":4.959999999999999},{"text":"my episodes on Substack uh for paid","start":6.799,"duration":4.240999999999999},{"text":"subscribers. I put them up early and","start":9.36,"duration":4.08},{"text":"then 24 hours uh later I release them to","start":11.04,"duration":4.479000000000001},{"text":"the public on all my platforms. 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But it's not this awful,","start":5479.04,"duration":7.8400000000001455},{"text":"you know, oppressive, you know,","start":5483.36,"duration":5.838999999999942},{"text":"Stalinist societ. And neither is Russia.","start":5486.88,"duration":4.880000000000109},{"text":"Now Russia is not a Stalinist. I knew","start":5489.199,"duration":5.520000000000437},{"text":"people in Stalinist Russia. I mean, I'm","start":5491.76,"duration":5.119999999999891},{"text":"young enough to have known those people","start":5494.719,"duration":5.041000000000167},{"text":"were scared for their life.","start":5496.88,"duration":5.838999999999942},{"text":"You know, Stravinsky was well known for","start":5499.76,"duration":5.438999999999396},{"text":"having keeping a packed bag in his in","start":5502.719,"duration":4.479999999999563},{"text":"his apartment because he could be","start":5505.199,"duration":4.480000000000473},{"text":"arrested at any time. 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Some of them are so stupid","start":5556.159,"duration":5.520000000000437},{"text":"they don't know it to basically","start":5557.679,"duration":7.9210000000002765},{"text":"uh lure American American citizens into","start":5561.679,"duration":6.40099999999984},{"text":"believing that we have a country that's","start":5565.6,"duration":4.319999999999709},{"text":"working on our behalf. That's not the","start":5568.08,"duration":4.639000000000124},{"text":"truth. We can have a country that works","start":5569.92,"duration":6.318999999999505},{"text":"on our behalf. And I hope that people","start":5572.719,"duration":5.4399999999996},{"text":"listening to what I'm saying will do","start":5576.239,"duration":4.081000000000131},{"text":"everything and go out and vote that","start":5578.159,"duration":4.480000000000473},{"text":"there won't be violence. But we have to","start":5580.32,"duration":4.399000000000342},{"text":"retake this country. No question about","start":5582.639,"duration":3.519999999999527},{"text":"it.","start":5584.719,"duration":3.201000000000022},{"text":"We do not have control of our country","start":5586.159,"duration":3.6810000000004948},{"text":"anymore.","start":5587.92,"duration":5.960000000000036},{"text":">> Where could people find you, Ted?","start":5589.84,"duration":4.039999999999964},{"text":">> Write poison pen letters.","start":5594.0,"duration":3.9200000000000728},{"text":">> You're smart for never being on social","start":5596.48,"duration":2.800000000000182},{"text":"media. We talk I bring this We talk","start":5597.92,"duration":2.719000000000051},{"text":"about this every time at the end of the","start":5599.28,"duration":2.9589999999998327},{"text":"show because you you stayed away from","start":5600.639,"duration":1.9210000000002765},{"text":"ads.","start":5602.239,"duration":3.1210000000000946},{"text":">> Well, I have an email address. 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Uh, you","start":5838.8,"duration":3.438999999999396},{"text":"know, I look forward to continuing to","start":5840.639,"duration":3.3609999999998763},{"text":"follow us along, more conversations","start":5842.239,"duration":3.4400000000005093},{"text":"ahead, and we'll uh we'll see where this","start":5844.0,"duration":3.0399999999999636},{"text":"goes.","start":5845.679,"duration":3.4399999999996},{"text":">> Okay. Well, thanks a lot. I hope uh your","start":5847.04,"duration":3.6790000000000873},{"text":"audience got something out of this.","start":5849.119,"duration":4.841000000000349},{"text":">> Mic drop.","start":5850.719,"duration":3.2409999999999854}],"language":"en","transcript_text":"What's up everybody? Just want to take a quick second and let people know that I am self-supported. Uh I now put all of my episodes on Substack uh for paid subscribers. I put them up early and then 24 hours uh later I release them to the public on all my platforms. 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